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		<title>Comment on A fresh-air look at innovation by Arantor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, they&#039;re very attached to their plastic, glass and metal. Unless it could be demonstrated that some bamboo weave provided a &#039;better user experience&#039;, I can&#039;t really see Apple using bamboo :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, they&#8217;re very attached to their plastic, glass and metal. Unless it could be demonstrated that some bamboo weave provided a &#8216;better user experience&#8217;, I can&#8217;t really see Apple using bamboo <img src='http://innovatenotimitate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Policing the Internet by Arantor</title>
		<link>http://innovatenotimitate.com/?p=422#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator>Arantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True enough, Wikipedia is vaguely encyclopaedic. But I&#039;ve found there is a vague link between accuracy of items and subject matter. Specifically, I&#039;ve found that items about culture (especially geek culture) tend to be more militantly moderated and kept up to date.

I say militant because for an encyclopaedia that &#039;anyone can edit&#039;, there is a surprising number of &#039;edit wars&#039; and moderation exercises, and surprisingly less self-moderation than I would have expected to see.

Your example of F-numbers on Wikipedia seems to follow what I&#039;ve observed, generally: the geeky part (the formulae, history and so on) is thorough, encyclopaedic and likely kept up to date, while the bit that most people would want is pretty small. It&#039;s also worth noting that it&#039;s that last part where someone new to the concept of F-numbers would be looking for, as a general introduction to what they are and what they do, and would hang around for the meat if they were interested.

Therein, really, lies the problem. Sure, you have companies putting up information about their products but by and large, the information epicentres of the Internet - the hobbyist blogs, and all of the wikis (and related type sites) out there - are populated by people who just add that information in their spare time.

They may not be industry experts. They&#039;re probably not good copy-writers. But they are passionate about it, which is how it makes it up there in the first place. So far, so good. But passion only takes you so far - it doesn&#039;t take much before life gets in the way and the hobby has to be put on hold, which means the maintenance cycle and updating and fact-checking may not happen promptly if at all.

Now, on something like Wikipedia, it&#039;s not that easy to find a page that hasn&#039;t been updated in a while and usually it happens because of the above: the one or two people that looked after it had, for whatever reason, let it go.

That&#039;s the main problem that we discussed originally: that there&#039;s so much information out there put up by hobbyists that goes out of date so quickly, and there&#039;s no process by which to review that information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True enough, Wikipedia is vaguely encyclopaedic. But I&#8217;ve found there is a vague link between accuracy of items and subject matter. Specifically, I&#8217;ve found that items about culture (especially geek culture) tend to be more militantly moderated and kept up to date.</p>
<p>I say militant because for an encyclopaedia that &#8216;anyone can edit&#8217;, there is a surprising number of &#8216;edit wars&#8217; and moderation exercises, and surprisingly less self-moderation than I would have expected to see.</p>
<p>Your example of F-numbers on Wikipedia seems to follow what I&#8217;ve observed, generally: the geeky part (the formulae, history and so on) is thorough, encyclopaedic and likely kept up to date, while the bit that most people would want is pretty small. It&#8217;s also worth noting that it&#8217;s that last part where someone new to the concept of F-numbers would be looking for, as a general introduction to what they are and what they do, and would hang around for the meat if they were interested.</p>
<p>Therein, really, lies the problem. Sure, you have companies putting up information about their products but by and large, the information epicentres of the Internet &#8211; the hobbyist blogs, and all of the wikis (and related type sites) out there &#8211; are populated by people who just add that information in their spare time.</p>
<p>They may not be industry experts. They&#8217;re probably not good copy-writers. But they are passionate about it, which is how it makes it up there in the first place. So far, so good. But passion only takes you so far &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t take much before life gets in the way and the hobby has to be put on hold, which means the maintenance cycle and updating and fact-checking may not happen promptly if at all.</p>
<p>Now, on something like Wikipedia, it&#8217;s not that easy to find a page that hasn&#8217;t been updated in a while and usually it happens because of the above: the one or two people that looked after it had, for whatever reason, let it go.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the main problem that we discussed originally: that there&#8217;s so much information out there put up by hobbyists that goes out of date so quickly, and there&#8217;s no process by which to review that information.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A fresh-air look at innovation by Adonis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adonis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*waits for bamboo iStuff* :P</description>
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		<title>Comment on Policing the Internet by Adonis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adonis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikipedia is still, at it&#039;s best, an &lt;i&gt;encyclopedic&lt;/i&gt; source of information.  You can look up &#039;handstand&#039; and will tell you various types and the history of each -- but not how to do one.

Similarly (and more relevant to me) F-number (cameras) goes into all sorts of formulae, history and why it does what it does.  The practical application is a small picture and a bit of very buried text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia is still, at it&#8217;s best, an <i>encyclopedic</i> source of information.  You can look up &#8216;handstand&#8217; and will tell you various types and the history of each &#8212; but not how to do one.</p>
<p>Similarly (and more relevant to me) F-number (cameras) goes into all sorts of formulae, history and why it does what it does.  The practical application is a small picture and a bit of very buried text.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A fresh-air look at innovation by Arantor</title>
		<link>http://innovatenotimitate.com/?p=427#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>Arantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s also true, but at the same time, we&#039;ve naturally moved towards a disposable culture, where people do discard things and refresh them far more frequently than would have been done a couple of decades (or generations) ago.

Consequently, the whole notion of natural material construction is actually more appealing, for exactly the reason you mention - by making it easier and cleaner to actually dispose of a given item.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s also true, but at the same time, we&#8217;ve naturally moved towards a disposable culture, where people do discard things and refresh them far more frequently than would have been done a couple of decades (or generations) ago.</p>
<p>Consequently, the whole notion of natural material construction is actually more appealing, for exactly the reason you mention &#8211; by making it easier and cleaner to actually dispose of a given item.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Policing the Internet by Arantor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, that &#039;someone else somewhere&#039; tends to be Wikipedia, at least for most people, I find.

Linking current information is usually problematic because of what has become known as &#039;link rot&#039;, where links die over time as sites disappear off the net due to the author getting fed up and moving on, or where links get updated due to a software change and there&#039;s a logistical break in getting from the old to new content.

The problem is that most people are simply not that thorough, and are always chasing what&#039;s new rather than making sure there are good resources for already out there, and Wikipedia is not necessarily the best resource, simply because anyone can edit it - more than once I&#039;ve thought about encyclopaedic resources that I wanted to see that weren&#039;t managed by committee but a small, select group of trusted editors. At least that way, there&#039;s a chance the sites will be kept up to date and well moderated etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, that &#8216;someone else somewhere&#8217; tends to be Wikipedia, at least for most people, I find.</p>
<p>Linking current information is usually problematic because of what has become known as &#8216;link rot&#8217;, where links die over time as sites disappear off the net due to the author getting fed up and moving on, or where links get updated due to a software change and there&#8217;s a logistical break in getting from the old to new content.</p>
<p>The problem is that most people are simply not that thorough, and are always chasing what&#8217;s new rather than making sure there are good resources for already out there, and Wikipedia is not necessarily the best resource, simply because anyone can edit it &#8211; more than once I&#8217;ve thought about encyclopaedic resources that I wanted to see that weren&#8217;t managed by committee but a small, select group of trusted editors. At least that way, there&#8217;s a chance the sites will be kept up to date and well moderated etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Policing the Internet by Adonis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adonis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my blog (linked!) I try and write things in a &#039;timeless&#039; fashion.  Certain things like composition and f/stop really don&#039;t change. 

 I find that a lot of sites, in an attempt to be &#039;New, hip and relevant&#039; tend to ignore information that doesn&#039;t change, assuming that someone else somewhere probably already has it written up.  This is likely true, but I find that re-linking current info is more of a plague.  

In the rare instance where I&#039;m talking about a specific lens, camera or even generation of cameras that is likely to become out of date, I&#039;ll usually throw in the qualifier of &lt;i&gt;&#039;Currently, as per the date of this article...&#039;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my blog (linked!) I try and write things in a &#8216;timeless&#8217; fashion.  Certain things like composition and f/stop really don&#8217;t change. </p>
<p> I find that a lot of sites, in an attempt to be &#8216;New, hip and relevant&#8217; tend to ignore information that doesn&#8217;t change, assuming that someone else somewhere probably already has it written up.  This is likely true, but I find that re-linking current info is more of a plague.  </p>
<p>In the rare instance where I&#8217;m talking about a specific lens, camera or even generation of cameras that is likely to become out of date, I&#8217;ll usually throw in the qualifier of <i>&#8216;Currently, as per the date of this article&#8230;&#8217;</i></p>
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		<title>Comment on A fresh-air look at innovation by Adonis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adonis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with organic materials is that they usually decompose as well.  In some circumstances, that&#039;s actually a good thing too.

Which isn&#039;t to say that metal doesn&#039;t rust and plastic is invincible either.  It just means that you&#039;d have to engineer the bamboo bike to make it easier to replace frame as needed.  That, or treat them with horrible chemicals to retard decomposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with organic materials is that they usually decompose as well.  In some circumstances, that&#8217;s actually a good thing too.</p>
<p>Which isn&#8217;t to say that metal doesn&#8217;t rust and plastic is invincible either.  It just means that you&#8217;d have to engineer the bamboo bike to make it easier to replace frame as needed.  That, or treat them with horrible chemicals to retard decomposition.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Facebook, Google+ and how the users cry foul by Arantor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty much, yes.

I&#039;ve been amusing myself since the roll-out by watching people huff off, vowing never to return, and I&#039;m just waiting to see how long it takes before some of them do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much, yes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been amusing myself since the roll-out by watching people huff off, vowing never to return, and I&#8217;m just waiting to see how long it takes before some of them do&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Nao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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